The Not-So Friendly Skies of United–Part Two

June/25/2013 5:20AM
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This post was originally written on October 31, 2012. This is an update that I’m typing as I’m holding on the telephone while waiting for United Airlines to figure out why a reservation has been confirmed, but not ticketed. They have my money through PayPal, but they just can’t figure out how to issue the ticket. It’s all supposed to be done by computer. I’m still trying to use up my free miles from United after they refused to change my name on my Mileage Plus account from C. William Robertson to Charles William Robertson as required by the TSA. They required a birth certificate to do that. I refused, as you can read below, based on the priciple that a president can be elected without a birth certificate and I’m not going to provide one for a program that is supposed to create customer loyalty. They lost my business and Chase Bank lost my credit card business over this. I went right to the top of United Airlines and was told it’s a company policy and they can’t budge.

By  the way, I’m still on  hold, wait, Jerry just got back on the line. He will call me back since this is just such a big problem it can’t be solved in 22 minutes.

I hope you will read the original blog(below) that described what I went through with United to get this little problem solved. But, here’s the humorous part. When I logged in to make the reservation they can’t ticket, here’s the message I saw.

 

The name on your MileagePlus account has been changed to Mr. Charles William Robertson in an effort to resolve some inconsistencies with your saved identification information. Please view your profile to ensure your updated information is correct.

The update we’ve made to your account was necessary in order to comply with the TSA Secure Flight program, which requires the information on your flight reservations to exactly match the government-issued photo ID that will be shown at the airport. In addition, to ensure that you receive mileage credit and other MileagePlus benefits, the name on your MileagePlus account must exactly match your travel documentation.

 

 

We tend to blame everything on government. Job losses, a stagnant economy, etc. Business in America needs to take on their own issues and fix their own problems that are within their control.

Here’s an example. You need to read this from the bottom up. It will tell you how much United Airlines cares about heavy user customers. It will show you how the actions of one big business impact another big business. United’s policy will cost Chase Bank a few thousand in profits next year and for several more.

No one ever explained why United has this policy. Since all responses came from an outsourced customer service center most likely in India, it’s not in the script. They are like Obama, if it’s not on the teleprompter, we are clueless.  But, this one in not on Obama. It’s on the top executives at United who are probably clueless about the policy. It was put in by some obscure low-level attorney.

A friend had the same problem at American and one phone call fixed it there. They can’t nail the seats down, but they can change a name in their frequent flier program.

As I told Mr. Smisek, CEO of United in the last e-mail, one he will never read, I crashed with 300 others on UA 232 when they failed to fix a maintenance issue on DC-10’s and we lost all hydraulics. I was pissed at United but stayed a customer because of the cockpit crew who got that thing on the ground and saved 200 of the 300 passengers.

You can see from this how a policy at United might cause a crash.

 

Dear Mr. Smisek:(CEO United Airlines)
You have a company policy that just cost you a loyal customer. The irony of that policy is it’s roots. It’s your loyalty program. As a retired marketing executive, I find it ironic that a program that is designed to cement customer loyalty becomes something that costs a customer. From my perspective, I see no value to you to have such a policy. In fact, I question whether you can require a customer to submit a copy of a birth certificate. A  man can be elected president in this country without first submitting such a document.
I’m a long-time loyal customer of United. Even though I was a passenger on UA 232, I stayed with the company. I have a Chase card that I use for $200,000 a year in purchases. Your policy not only cost you a loyal customer, it cost Chase a loyal customer.
Below you will find the litany of this story. I’m sure this will be picked up by someone other than you and recycled back to your outsourced customer service people in the far east. Too bad, you need to read this stuff.
As I said below, I’ve received the USAIR, Master Card through Bank of America complete with 40,000 miles for applying. I’ve booked 3 round trips with USAIR that would have gone to United. When my banked miles are gone, you will have seen me for the last time.
You win. Your irrational policy is intact. Your people did an excellent job of putting policy before common sense and business. I’m sure that will make you proud. Their names are included below, excluding the first lady I talked to on the telephone about this. She should get the big bonus. When told I would not comply and just take my business elsewhere, her response was priceless. Yawn, “whatever”.
Thank you for wasting my time and having a lackey forward this back to your customer service center in India.
Bill Robertson
—–Original Message—– From: mileageplus <mileageplus@united.com> To: BROBERT545 <BROBERT545@AOL.COM> Sent: Mon, Oct 29, 2012 11:35 am Subject: Re: Other  (KMM7294677V24895L0KM)

Dear Mr. Robertson:
We are unable to process your request. Your request to modify the name on your MileagePlus account must be accompanied by legal documentation. Please mail a copy of your government-issued identification such as a passport, driver’s license or birth certificate to the address below:
MileagePlus Service Center
P. O. Box 6120
Rapid City, SD  57709-6120        
Please indicate how your name should appear on your account:
First name: (limited to 16 characters including spaces)        Middle initial: (limited to 1 character)*        Last Name: (limited to 30 characters including spaces)
Please do not email personal data, such as a scanned copy of a passport, driver’s license or Social Security card since email is not a secure method of transmission.
*If you wish for your account to reflect your full middle name, the middle name may be included in the first name field, as long as both names fit within the 16-character limit. 
Regards,
 
Geneva Pratcher
MileagePlus® Service Center
We appreciate your participation in the MileagePlus program and your support of United and our partners. We look forward to serving your travel needs again in the near future. For MileagePlus program information, please visitwww.mileageplus.com.

Original Message Follows: ————————

Dear Mr. Joshi:
Your have told me nothing I did not already know. Make sure you send this to management as well. Nor, did you address my issue. I want my Mileage Plus name changed to Charles William Robertson from C. William Robertson to comply with the TSA. If you used the name in the file to issue the ticket this would not be a problem. But, you issue the ticket in the name on the Mileage Plus account.
See, here’s the problem. I will not send a copy of my birth certificate to comply with a marketing program that is supposed to make me want to fly United. Simple as that. To do this makes me not want to fly United, which I didn’t do yesterday. My wife and I flew US Air to Phoenix instead of United. We will fly back on US Air. I will fly back here again in December on US Air. The food in first class is better too, by the way.
You can keep sending my inane responses to your problem, not mine, and I will keep flying US Air. I will fly United some until I use up my miles. But, the miles will not be accumulating, since I signed up for the US Air Master Card on my flight yesterday and got 40,000 bonus miles to do that.
You just stick to your guns, Mr. Joshi, and keep telling me what I already know. If you ever want my business back you will tell me you or some other courageous United employee changed my name in the Mileage Plus account. By the way, you dumped me in a corn field in Sioux City, Iowa in 1989 on flight 232. Now you treat me like this?
I strongly suggest you send this to management. Otherwise they might be reading it in the papers. Step up to plate Mr. Joshi, realize that United is losing enough business without doing things like this. Be brave and save a customer. Many of us have done it and it feels far better than sending form letters knowing you did lose a customer.
Bill Robertson
—–Original Message—–        From: mileageplus <mileageplus@united.com>        To: BROBERT545 <BROBERT545@AOL.COM>        Sent: Thu, Oct 25, 2012 8:35 am        Subject: Re: Other (KMM7219201V80319L0KM)

Dear Mr. Robertson:
Thank you for your comments.  We consistently strive to provide a service that is superior in every respect, and it is through the constructive comments of our customers that we are able to correct problems that may not otherwise have come to our attention.  Your comments have been forwarded to our management team to assist them as we continue to make positive changes within our company.
Here is what you should know about tickets, identification and your account: 
  • Your MileagePlus account must have a title.  If your ticket has a title, it will most likely append to the end of your first name.  This will not stop you from receiving credit in your frequent flyer account or affect check-in.
  • The first and last name on your account must match the first and last name on your ticket in order to receive credit for flight miles.
  • You will still earn miles for qualifying flights with or without a middle name or middle initial on your ticket or account.
  • The first and last name on your ticket should match the name on your government-issued photo ID.
That is why we requested you to change the name so that name on the ticket will match with the name on the account.
Don’t hesitate to contact us again if there’s any other way we can help.
 
Regards,
 
Himanshu Joshi 
MileagePlus
 
This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVATE and CONFIDENTIAL.

Original Message Follows: ————————

Dear Senil Sharma :
I am confused. I thought Mileage Plus was a customer loyalty program. Now I find I’m here to serve United Airlines. I will just continue to give my business to USAir and switch my credit card from Chase to another card. I won’t be sending you any birth certificates and I will keep tricking your system until my miles are gone. You people are insane.
Charles William Robertson
Sent from my iPad
On Oct 22, 2012, at 3:12 AM, “mileageplus@united.com” <mileageplus@united.com> wrote:
FR946853
Dear Mr. Robertson:
Thank you for contacting the MileagePlus Service Center.
Your request to modify the name on your MileagePlus account must be accompanied by legal documentation. Please mail a copy of your government-issued identification such as a passport, driver’s license or birth certificate to the address below:
MileagePlus Service Center
P. O. Box 6120
Rapid City, SD  57709-6120                  
Please indicate how your name should appear on your account:
First name: (limited to 16 characters including spaces)                  Middle initial: (limited to 1 character)*                  Last Name: (limited to 30 characters including spaces)
Please do not email personal data, such as a scanned copy of a passport, driver’s license or Social Security card since email is not a secure method of transmission.
*If you wish for your account to reflect your full middle name, the middle name may be included in the first name field, as long as both names fit within the 16-character limit. 
We appreciate you taking the time to contact us.
Regards,
Sunil Sharma
MileagePlus
This message is intended only for the use of the Addressee and may contain information that is PRIVATE and CONFIDENTIAL.
Original Message Follows:
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Submitted: 10/20/2012 3:33:59 PM
Remote Host: 67.174.88.69
User Agent: IE
Signed In: Yes
Name: Charles W. Robertson
E-mail Address:
MileagePlus Number:
Premier Status: 0
Category: None
Subject: Other
Reply: Yes
Message:
I became a member 30 years ago. At that time it was OK to be C. William Robertson. Now with the TSA I must be Charles W Robertson. You issue tickets in my mileage plus name, not my traveler’s name.
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